And that is what I am going to have to do a bit of over the next few days. Some people really should know that you can not pull out and do a U Turn in front of another car from a car park, silly man. All the boys are worried about is loosing the van, they love that old thing, all we are worrying about is the cost to replace it as it was only insured at market value so we won't get too much back on insurance. The old thing was totally mechanically sound and never missed a beat. In the 9 + years we have had it, other than a regualr service, the only thing that ever needed fixing was a new radiator cap, cost $12 and a new battery in it once. And really, as much as I may have complained about it's age at times I don't want a brand new car that I have to be constantly worrying about the paintwork and the interior getting dirty. It has safely driven my own kids and possibly half the footy team and definitely nearly all their friends and my friends and family around for years, there are so many good memories related it.